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From: jkeroes@reed.edu (spork de plastique) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: meaning of k-rad Date: 11 Nov 1994 12:55:48 GMT Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 10 Message-ID: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: shiva.reed.edu

What does the "k" of k-rad stand for?

kilo-rad? (like 1000x as rad….) kevin mitnick-rad? (heh) kracked-rad (for all the warez d00ds out there)

I just don't get it. Anyone?

-ua

From: Tim Downey tdowney@morpheus.hartford.edu Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 11 Nov 1994 16:38:18 GMT Organization: The University of Hartford Lines: 9 Message-ID: 3a06lq$q38@ipgate.hartford.edu References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: zorin.hartford.edu


What does the "k" of k-rad stand for?

The 'k' is as in kilobytes. It's warez-speak.

-twotone

From: ah9531@albnyvms.bitnet Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 12 Nov 1994 20:57:20 GMT Organization: University of Albany, SUNY Lines: 15 Message-ID: 3a3a7g$mha@rebecca.albany.edu References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu,3a06lq$q38@ipgate.hartford.edu Reply-To: ah9531@albnyvms.bitnet NNTP-Posting-Host: uacsc1.albany.edu

In article 3a06lq$q38@ipgate.hartford.edu, Tim Downey tdowney@morpheus.hartford.edu writes:


What does the "k" of k-rad stand for?



The 'k' is as in kilobytes. It's warez-speak.

-twotone

Sorry.. Actually, there was a magazine a number of yrs ago.. (forgot the name) .. but anyway, they started using thinkgs like "k-kool" and such… this was a paper mag, around '84'85 .. and it just kinda stuck.. it was more used as mebbe c=64 warez ppl..

From: grk2237@ACFcluster.nyu.edu (Glenn Kurtzrock – SPE NY Gamma) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600,alt.fan.cult-dead-cow Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 12 Nov 1994 01:20:24 GMT Organization: New York University, New York, NY Lines: 24 Message-ID: 3a158o$cpv@cmcl2.NYU.EDU References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu Reply-To: grk2237@ACFcluster.nyu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: axp3.acf.nyu.edu

In article 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu, jkeroes@reed.edu (spork de plastique) writes:


What does the "k" of k-rad stand for?

kilo-rad? (like 1000x as rad….)
kevin mitnick-rad? (heh)
kracked-rad (for all the warez d00ds out there)

I just don't get it. Anyone?

-ua

I would assume it's it's just a cross-over from the k in k-k00l. Then again, probably not. Then again, who gives a flying fuck about the etymology of a word like k-rad?

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600,alt.fan.cult-dead-cow From: tward@wybbs.mi.org (Thad Ward) Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Organization: Consultants Connection Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 02:20:36 GMT Message-ID: CzE3uE.GA3@wybbs.mi.org References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a158o$cpv@cmcl2.NYU.EDU Lines: 25

grk2237@ACFcluster.nyu.edu (Glenn Kurtzrock – SPE NY Gamma) writes:

In article 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu, jkeroes@reed.edu (spork de plastique) writes:

What does the "k" of k-rad stand for?

kilo-rad? (like 1000x as rad….)
kevin mitnick-rad? (heh)
kracked-rad (for all the warez d00ds out there)

I just don't get it. Anyone?

-ua

>I would assume it's it's just a cross-over from the k in k-k00l. Then again,

probably not. Then again, who gives a flying fuck about the etymology of a word

i was told that i was kinda like k-mart (not a good store) k-rad: not rad

Thad Ward tward@wybbs.mi.org tward@grfn.org ag044@leo.nmc.edu wardt@freenet.fsu.edu

From: inaba@primenet.com (Inaba, the Dream Maker) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 14:59:46 MST Organization: Primenet Lines: 37 Message-ID: inaba.3.0021FE2E@primenet.com References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: slip144.fhu.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4]

In article 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu jkeroes@reed.edu (spork de plastique) writes:

From: jkeroes@reed.edu (spork de plastique)
Subject: meaning of k-rad
Date: 11 Nov 1994 12:55:48 GMT
What does the "k" of k-rad stand for?

>kilo-rad? (like 1000x as rad….)

kevin mitnick-rad? (heh)
kracked-rad (for all the warez d00ds out there)

>I just don't get it. Anyone?

>-ua

<Picking up my cane and spectacles. Inserting false teeth>

Well, shonny… back in my day, the 'k' in k-rad stood for 'kewl' . As in "Kewl-rad".

We used it to describe new software that was released. eg. "How's the new game." "It's f*cking k-rad, dude!"

etc… You could put 'k' infront of just about everything.

*-fyters unite!

From: Chandler jared.chandler@alaska.net Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 15 Nov 1994 01:28:28 GMT Organization: Hidden Power Elite Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: 3a92rs$t3r@calvino.alaska.net References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu inaba.3.0021FE2E@primenet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: chandler.alaska.net X-Newsreader: Nuntius Version 1.2 X-XXMessage-ID: AAED450553018C51@chandler.alaska.net X-XXDate: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 16:47:01 GMT

In article inaba.3.0021FE2E@primenet.com Inaba, inaba@primenet.com writes:

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Well, as far as I know, 'K-Rad Kouriers' was the company of one of the main characters in Neal Stephanson's -SNOW CRASH-… If thats just conincidence.. well…

From: toastman@armory.com (Powdered Toast Man) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 13 Nov 1994 21:00:59 GMT Organization: The Armory Lines: 22 Message-ID: 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: deepthought.armory.com

In article 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu, spork de plastique jkeroes@reed.edu wrote:


What does the "k" of k-rad stand for?

kilo-rad? (like 1000x as rad….)

That's what they told me on IRC.

kracked-rad (for all the warez d00ds out there)

I just don't get it. Anyone?

The only time I['ve heard of it was to make fun of warez doodz… in that people who use "k-rad" are lame… so in the back of my mind I thought that k-rad was some marketing scheme by K-Mart in the early eighties that I was too young to remember.

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From: john@linux.reshall.umich.edu (John Gotts) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Followup-To: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Date: 13 Nov 1994 23:17:51 GMT Organization: Linux in the Baits Residence Hall at the University of Michigan Lines: 14 Message-ID: 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net NNTP-Posting-Host: linux.reshall.umich.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 941024BETA PL0]

The expression 'k-rad' has been around at least since 1988. I don't think that the 'k' has any particular meaning except to aid in making cryptic ASCII-ed bastardizations of the English language like:

/←R@[) [)00[)

It doesn't surprise me that this is popular again, considering back in the good old days the real hackers laughed at people who did this. Hacking has changed.

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From: anarch@cse.ucsc.edu (Anarch) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 14 Nov 1994 04:18:42 GMT Organization: Secular Humanists from Hell Lines: 11 Message-ID: 3a6of2$4lc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: yahi.cse.ucsc.edu

john@linux.reshall.umich.edu (John Gotts) wrote:

The expression 'k-rad' has been around at least since 1988…

It doesn't surprise me that this is popular again, considering back in the good
old days the real hackers laughed at people who did this. Hacking has changed.

No, real hackers *still* laugh at people who do this.

I think all the 'k-rad's that you see around here are jokes. I *hope* so, anyway.

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Message-ID: <1994Nov14.004517.33856@miavx1> From: atporter@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Aaron Porter) Date: 14 Nov 94 00:45:17 -0500 Followup-To: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net 3a6of2$4lc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU Nntp-Posting-Host: nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 28

Anarch (anarch@cse.ucsc.edu) wrote: : john@linux.reshall.umich.edu (John Gotts) wrote: : >The expression 'k-rad' has been around at least since 1988… : > : >It doesn't surprise me that this is popular again, considering back in the good : >old days the real hackers laughed at people who did this. Hacking has changed.

: No, real hackers *still* laugh at people who do this.

: I think all the 'k-rad's that you see around here are jokes. I *hope* : so, anyway.

K-Rad has been arround forever.   Mainly came up in my experience

with Apple warez traders. At that point it was a compliment, or an endorsement (ie. "The Pirate's Pit is k-rad man.") But more recently, I'd say 91 or so, it was used to describe hte 'lamers' 'rodents' and other 'elite' annoyances. Now you only see k-rad on renegade boards where 90% of the users have high-ASCII in their handles. – "The only fate worse than death is living with a closed mind." atporter@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu atporter@miavx1.muohio.edu komodo@wonder.resnet.cornell.edu komodo@jpc.stu.rpi.edu From: daemon@news.internet-eireann.ie (Owner of many system processes) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 16 Nov 1994 17:30:30 -0000 Organization: Wall Control Systems Ltd. Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: 784995560snz@wcs.internet-eireann.ie References: <1994Nov14.004517.33856@miavx1> Reply-To: edwall@wcs.internet-eireann.ie NNTP-Posting-Host: gate2.internet-eireann.ie X-Newsreader: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.21) Apparently-To: mail2news@gate2.internet-eireann.ie In article <1994Nov14.004517.33856@miavx1> atporter@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu writes: >I'd say 91 or so, it was used to describe hte 'lamers' 'rodents' and >other 'elite' annoyances. Now you only see k-rad on renegade boards >where 90% of the users have high-ASCII in their handles. > Now we can them quote their favourite Beavis and Butthead comments in high-ASCII, doubling the annoyance. I tHiNk MoSt Of ThEm NeEd To GeT tHeIr KeYbOaRdS fIxEd. l8r |————————————————————————-| | edwall@wcs.internet-eireann.ie | Fax : 353-1-8215671 (Ireland) | | "Where did he go ?" WHOOOSH! "Where did who go ?" :-) | |————————————————————————-| From: jmiller@terra.colostate.edu (Jeff Miller) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: Mon, 14 Nov 1994 09:44:42 UNDEFINED Organization: Terrestrial Ecosystems Regional Research and Analysis Lines: 15 Message-ID: jmiller.120.1334FB55@terra.colostate.edu References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu 3a6of2$4lc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: tpfs1.terra.colostate.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] Ok, here's the real story (I hope)… In the apple "scene" there was a group called MPG (Midwest Pirates Guild). One of the members of that group (who's handle I forget) used to talk really quick, and instead of saying stuff like "Ok, cool", he'd say, "'K, Cool". Thus begat "k-cool", which later spawned into "k-rad", "k-k00l", etc. – _ | | | Jeff Miller | TERRA's Sys. Admin. | http://www.terra.colostate.edu/~jmiller | |_| Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 From: prig0011@gold.tc.umn.edu (Kevin L Prigge) Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Message-ID: CzDAF4.AKD@news.cis.umn.edu Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration) Nntp-Posting-Host: gold.tc.umn.edu Organization: University of Minnesota References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu 3a6of2$4lc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU jmiller.120.1334FB55@terra.colostate.edu Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 15:45:22 GMT Lines: 13 In article jmiller.120.1334FB55@terra.colostate.edu, Jeff Miller jmiller@terra.colostate.edu wrote: > >Ok, here's the real story (I hope)… > >In the apple "scene" there was a group called MPG (Midwest Pirates Guild). >One of the members of that group (who's handle I forget) used to talk really >quick, and instead of saying stuff like "Ok, cool", he'd say, "'K, Cool". >Thus begat "k-cool", which later spawned into "k-rad", "k-k00l", etc. > That would have been Apple Bandit, sysop of The Safehouse. From: t8c192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Michael Angelo Relova) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 16 Nov 1994 23:50:14 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 19 Message-ID: 3ae5rm$lp1@cs.ubc.ca References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu 3a6of2$4lc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU jmiller.120.1334FB55@terra.colostate.edu CzDAF4.AKD@news.cis.umn.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca In CzDAF4.AKD@news.cis.umn.edu prig0011@gold.tc.umn.edu (Kevin L Prigge) writes: >In article jmiller.120.1334FB55@terra.colostate.edu, >Jeff Miller jmiller@terra.colostate.edu wrote: » »Ok, here's the real story (I hope)… » »In the apple "scene" there was a group called MPG (Midwest Pirates Guild). »One of the members of that group (who's handle I forget) used to talk really »quick, and instead of saying stuff like "Ok, cool", he'd say, "'K, Cool". »Thus begat "k-cool", which later spawned into "k-rad", "k-k00l", etc. I think k-cool also meant kilo-cool or 1,000 times cool. – Michael Relova | Computer Science Undergrad t8c192@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca | University of British Columbia relova@unixg.ubc.ca | Vancouver, BC, Canada From: rhsiung@kaiwan.com (Richard Hsiung) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 14 Nov 1994 14:27:49 -0800 Organization: pi alpha omega epsilon alpha Lines: 13 Sender: rhsiung@kaiwan.kaiwan.com Message-ID: NVznkCO9a5r2073yn@kaiwan.com References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: kaiwan.kaiwan.com In article 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu, john@linux.reshall.umich.edu (John Gotts) wrote: > The expression 'k-rad' has been around at least since 1988. I don't think that > the 'k' has any particular meaning except to aid in making cryptic ASCII-ed It's been around a lot longer than 1988… I remember even back in '82 when k-rad/k00l/etc was considered rodent speak. Hmm.. maybe it had a lot to do with the /←/<o0l spinning cursor days of cat-fer boards. – Richard Hsiung rhsiung@kaiwan.com PGP public key via finger/keyserver WWW URL= http://www.kaiwan.com/~rhsiung From: spaaron@sgife7.sdrc.com (Arron Saarela) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 15 Nov 1994 16:12:03 GMT Organization: Structural Dynamics Research Corporation, Milford, OH Lines: 22 Distribution: usa Message-ID: 3aamkj$avv@info1.sdrc.com References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu NVznkCO9a5r2073yn@kaiwan.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sgife7.sdrc.com In article NVznkCO9a5r2073yn@kaiwan.com, Richard Hsiung rhsiung@kaiwan.com wrote: >In article 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu, >john@linux.reshall.umich.edu (John Gotts) wrote: » The expression 'k-rad' has been around at least since 1988. I don't think that » the 'k' has any particular meaning except to aid in making cryptic ASCII-ed > >It's been around a lot longer than 1988… I remember even back in >'82 when k-rad/k00l/etc was considered rodent speak. Hmm.. maybe >it had a lot to do with the /←/<o0l spinning cursor days of >cat-fer boards. > I was under the impression that the K-rad movement started out on the C-64 boards. In any respect, that's where I had seen it back in the early eighties. I remember that k-rad popping up on AII's and such, and people screaming for those to go back to there "Ultra k-rad k00l Commie B0rds" ——– The wise are sufficient unto themselves - Balthazar Grecian saarela@engin.umich.edu From: dogcow@ccs.neu.edu (Tom 'moof' Spindler) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: 17 Nov 1994 07:02:15 GMT Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University Lines: 15 Message-ID: 3aev5n$lut@narnia.ccs.neu.edu References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu 3a5uqb$csu@nic.scruz.net 3a66qv$ett@srvr1.engin.umich.edu NVznkCO9a5r2073yn@kaiwan.com NNTP-Posting-Host: atlas.ccs.neu.edu » The expression 'k-rad' has been around at least since 1988. I don't think that » the 'k' has any particular meaning except to aid in making cryptic ASCII-ed > >It's been around a lot longer than 1988… I remember even back in >'82 when k-rad/k00l/etc was considered rodent speak. Hmm.. maybe >it had a lot to do with the /←/<o0l spinning cursor days of >cat-fer boards. Ah, cat-fur and elite NetWorks! 99e99! I seem to remember having somewhere at home on my e a file circa '83 that listed all the "D000D" speak. I believe their examples of usage for K- were K-K000L, K-RAD, K-MART.

Wish I had a serial card for the e or a floppy drive for my mac so I could archive all the elite docfiles. From: Matthew@Fallon.com (Matthew Dornquast) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 17:48:28 -0600 Organization: Fallon McElligott Lines: 48 Message-ID: Matthew-1511941748280001@matthew.fallon.com References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.73.76.66 In article 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu, jkeroes@reed.edu (spork de plastique) asked: > What does the "k" of k-rad stand for? Jeff Miller's reply came the closest to reality thus far, writing: >In the apple "scene" there was a group called MPG (Midwest Pirates Guild). >One of the members of that group (who's handle I forget) used to talk really >quick, and instead of saying stuff like "Ok, cool", he'd say, "'K, Cool". >Thus begat "k-cool", which later spawned into "k-rad", "k-k00l", etc. Where do I come in? Well, I'm one of the original 4 MPG members. And yes, we did start the K-craze (Spontaneously without inspiration from outside sources) Disclaimer: It started spontaneously for us in 1982, it certainly could have elsewhere at any time. No, it didn't come from K as in Kilobytes. The "K" concept originated from our style of saying "Okay, bye" on the phone. One late night in a hurry to hack the latest ware before anyone else did, we hung up with a "k-bye". It just happened, without thinking. It sounded cool. (Back then, we were on the phoen A LOT. Folks called all the time. Wanting BBS access, software, etc. We tended to work while we talked, stream of conciousness kinda stuff.) We hung out, ate pizza, cracked warez. I believe Sinbad (one of the 4) was the first to go "k-cool" dude. It sounded Kool. From there we all went nuts. For months it was K-this, K-that, we made ourselves sick–Eventually settling down to our original K-cool & K-bye. We had several BBSs. The most popular and well known was the Safehouse. It wasn't surprising how it spread. We had over 10,000 users on our systems combined and habitually wrote "kbye" and "k-cool" on our messages. Heck, I think we even put it on a few title pages. (Those pages designating who hacked the software) Anyway, for what it's worth, that's how it started for us. I find it funny that folks use it in the "k/thousands" sense. It makes sense, though we never thought of it in that way ourselves. So in a way, I'm sure many contributed. Hope that helps. More than you wanted to know eh? From: lkench@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Lawrence Kenchel) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Followup-To: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Date: 16 Nov 1994 18:11:09 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Lines: 7 Message-ID: 3adhvt$rsn@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu Matthew-1511941748280001@matthew.fallon.com NNTP-Posting-Host: saucer.cc.umr.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] : > What does the "k" of k-rad stand for? I also vaugely remeber a section of FAmily Computing that was really lame on yellow pages they called K-Rad I think. I think it used to be a separate magazine but again, it was really lame…oh well…interesting real story behind it though… From: marauder@lod.amaranth.com (The Marauder) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Subject: Re: meaning of k-rad Followup-To: news.newusers.questions,alt.2600 Date: 18 Nov 1994 20:47:07 -0600 Organization: LoD Communications, Inc. Lines: 50 Message-ID: 3ajovb$6em@lod.amaranth.com References: 39vpkk$oeq@scratchy.reed.edu Matthew-1511941748280001@matthew.fallon.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lod.amaranth.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Matthew Dornquast (Matthew@Fallon.com) wrote: : > What does the "k" of k-rad stand for? : Jeff Miller's reply came the closest to reality thus far, writing: : >In the apple "scene" there was a group called MPG (Midwest Pirates Guild). : >One of the members of that group (who's handle I forget) used to talk really : >quick, and instead of saying stuff like "Ok, cool", he'd say, "'K, Cool". : >Thus begat "k-cool", which later spawned into "k-rad", "k-k00l", etc. : Disclaimer: It started spontaneously for us in 1982, it certainly could : have elsewhere at any time. : Wanting BBS access, software, etc. We tended to work while we talked, : stream of conciousness kinda stuff.) : We hung out, ate pizza, cracked warez. I believe Sinbad (one of the 4) : was the first to go "k-cool" dude. It sounded Kool. From there we all : went nuts. For months it was K-this, K-that, we made ourselves : sick–Eventually settling down to our original K-cool & K-bye. : We had several BBSs. The most popular and well known was the Safehouse. : It wasn't surprising how it spread. We had over 10,000 users on our : systems combined and habitually wrote "kbye" and "k-cool" on our : messages. Heck, I think we even put it on a few title pages. : (Those pages designating who hacked the software) : Anyway, for what it's worth, that's how it started for us. I find it : funny that folks use it in the "k/thousands" sense. It makes sense, : though we never thought of it in that way ourselves. So in a way, I'm : sure many contributed. : Hope that helps. More than you wanted to know eh? : -Matthew (Mini Appler) This is exactly where I remember seeing it appear.. and eventually it became used as way to sarcastically mock rodents.. btw, Matthew, I still have a copy of "Delightful Dialer" ;) Marauder – Marauder, The ||"Maybe going camping might provide a badly LoD Communications, Inc. || needed dose of perspective? The radiation marauder@lod.amaranth.com || from your computer setup is affecting your mind" ___|| [Circa 1994 - Universe aka ANI-Failure]

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